Hi guys,
First I want to mention that I'm a lucky Gajim user (gaim-svn on Debian). Thanks for this cool software.
however:
------------------------------------------------------------------------ r9571 | js | 2008-05-04 22:47:51 +0200 (So, 04 Mai 2008) | 2 lines
Redesign the chat window GUI. Should be more userfriendly now. ----------
It isn't, at least for me. :-( I must say first that I'm blind, so i'm using a screen reader software (Orca), using the keyboard exclusively (no mouse.)
The old 'actions' context menu (alt+a) was quite accessible for me to access functions such as buddy information or sending files. After the change the context menu hass been replaced by some buttons which are currently not accessible via the keyboard and don't provide shortcuts. I'ld definitely vote for the old message window style.
cheers
Henning
Henning Oschwald wrote:
Hi guys,
First I want to mention that I'm a lucky Gajim user (gaim-svn on Debian). Thanks for this cool software.
however:
r9571 | js | 2008-05-04 22:47:51 +0200 (So, 04 Mai 2008) | 2 lines
Redesign the chat window GUI. Should be more userfriendly now.
It isn't, at least for me. :-( I must say first that I'm blind, so i'm using a screen reader software (Orca), using the keyboard exclusively (no mouse.)
The old 'actions' context menu (alt+a) was quite accessible for me to access functions such as buddy information or sending files. After the change the context menu hass been replaced by some buttons which are currently not accessible via the keyboard and don't provide shortcuts. I'ld definitely vote for the old message window style.
cheers
Henning
Hi,
Thanks for your mail, that's nice to have comments from "non-standard-users" This space is currently not used in Gajim, so that's nice to have those icons I think. But I agree that using only the keyboard is interesting, not only for you. So what about adding shortcuts like Alt+I for Information window, etc ?
I already was pointed out to this mail shortly after it appeared and it's already fixed in SVN.
@Henning: All shortcuts were working, like Ctrl-I or Ctrl-H. Only Alt-A wasn't working anymore, which is fixed in svn now. Hope this improves Gajim's usability for you.
Hi,
On Pungenday, day 55 of Discord 3174, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
I already was pointed out to this mail shortly after it appeared and it's already fixed in SVN.
Yeah, the menu was back yesterday when I made the upgrade. Thanks a lot.
@Henning: All shortcuts were working, like Ctrl-I or Ctrl-H. Only Alt-A wasn't working anymore, which is fixed in svn now. Hope this improves Gajim's usability for you.
Yes, thanks. A shortcut for "send file" would be awesome, in case there isn't already one which I'm not aware of.
Henning
Henning Oschwald h.oschwald@gmx.de wrote:
Yes, thanks. A shortcut for "send file" would be awesome, in case there isn't already one which I'm not aware of.
I added shortcuts for *EVERY* button in the chat window and the GC window now (see r9601).
Henning, man you rock. I congratulate you for trying to use GNU/Linux. I always thought (and still think) that Windows is more accessible and easier to use as an OS for a blind man. It's good to see your alternative expressed here, and it's good to have more input from you in the future. So express yourself whenever needed :)
On 5/9/08, Henning Oschwald h.oschwald@gmx.de wrote:
On Prickle-Prickle, day 56 of Discord 3174, Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
I added shortcuts for *EVERY* button in the chat window and the GC window now (see r9601).
This is great, thanks!
Henning
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On Pungenday, day 55 of Discord 3174, Yann Leboulanger wrote:
Henning Oschwald wrote:
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The old 'actions' context menu (alt+a) was quite accessible for me to access functions such as buddy information or sending files. After the change the context menu hass been replaced by some buttons which are currently not accessible via the keyboard and don't provide shortcuts. I'ld definitely vote for the old message window style.
This space is currently not used in Gajim, so that's nice to have those icons I think.
Sure, why not. It just seemed to me like the icons were intended as a replacement for the context menu. But now the menu is back and I'm happy again. :-)
But I agree that using only the keyboard is interesting, not only for you. So what about adding shortcuts like Alt+I for Information window, etc?
Ctrl-i already shows the buddy information window, but keyboard shortcuts to access functions directly withoud needing to go the longer way through a menu are always welcome.
Henning
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