Gajim-devel October 2006

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Network Manager Support
by Jeffrey C. Ollie 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

I saw that a patch for Network Manager support went into SVN today. I thought that I'd share the patch that I've been using for a while as well... Jeff

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Re: [Gajim-devel] suggestion for Avatar dialog
by Markus Lutzer 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Dimitur Kirov schrieb: >>> There is one big problem. You cannot change your personal details >>> until you are connected to the server. At the same time, pure >>> account settings are kept locally and thus they don't need publish >>> and retrieve. How do you suggest to bypass these differences? > > Markus Lutzer <m.lutzer(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> In case the user is disconnected either >> - in the avatar tabs a text informs the user to connect first > One and the same text, appearing in three tabs is not a good idea. > >> - or the avatar tabs itself are disabled that they can not accessed. >> When pointing the mouse over the disabled tabs a tooltip could inform >> that the user has to connect first. > I don't think it is possible to have a tooltip on disabled widgets. > > on 06/10/10 Markus Lutzer <m.lutzer(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> .... This would result in a consistent account dialog with tabs for >> account, general, connection, OpenPGP, personal details, work, about. > Consistency is also broken if this dialog behaves differently with > connected and disconnected accounts, or while waiting for personal > settings to come from server. There are three situations: As you said, if Gajim would cache the vcard the usability should be consistent: > * disconnected from server > First three tabs are editable, the other three tabs (or the controls in them) are insensitive and won't become sensitive until Gajim connects to server. the cached vcard information is displayed. Either a "refresh" button might allow to fetch more up to date vcard from the server or this is done automatically e.g. at each connect. > * connected to server, but waiting for vcard to arrive > First three tabs are editable, the other three are temporally disabled, but they'll be editable soon. This requires progressbar, but user should now that this progressbar concerns only the last three tabs. I don't know why vcard is loaded from server (instead of just loading cached vcard) before edition, but there should be a reason for that. This should not happen as long as the vcard was fetched at least once, which might probably done at first time of configuring the Jabber account. > * connected to server and vcard has arrived. > This is fine so far. However imagine that personal details cannot be published due to lack of server abilities, or because user get disconnected before vcard is fully uploaded - very rare, yet still possible to happen. Then Gajim will display error dialog that operation is not completed. This is confusing since local changes will take effect and changes from the last three tabs will be ignored. Also imagine that we cannot save our account settings because of not enough free space on disc - very rare, but user will get confused of what is happening. If the user changed his vcard, pressed the save/ok/upload button a message "saving your information on the server" with a progress bar should appear. If the server is unavailable the message is replaced by an error message allowing to retry or cancel. > > Regards, > Kirov > >

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Re: [Gajim-devel] suggestion for Avatar dialog
by Markus Lutzer 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Dimitur Kirov schrieb: > Markus Lutzer <m.lutzer(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> I attached a mockup to make clear what I suggest. Hope it goes through >> the mailing list. >> > +1 > > These two tabs [Personal Information] [Personal Info] are a bit > obscure. Maybe move Open PGP key to Account, or General tab and remove > [Personal Information] tab? agree > There is one big problem. You cannot change your personal details until you are connected to the server. At the same time, pure account settings are kept locally and thus they don't need publish and retrieve. How do you suggest to bypass these differences? In case the user is disconnected either - in the avatar tabs a text informs the user to connect first - or the avatar tabs itself are disabled that they can not accessed. When pointing the mouse over the disabled tabs a tooltip could inform that the user has to connect first.

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suggestion for Avatar dialog
by Markus Lutzer 11 Oct '06

11 Oct '06

Now the dialog for Avatar information can be accessed through two different ways (names can vary because I translated it from my German installation): (1) menu->accounts->tab personal information->button edit personal details (2) menu->profile,Avatar->specific account I would suggest to understand avatar information as part of a particular account. Therefore it would be easier to use and to understand to drop path (2) and change path (1) to menu->accounts->tabs with personal information. This would result in a consistent account dialog with tabs for account, general, connection, OpenPGP, personal details, work, about. The button which is required now to be pressed separates the avatar information from the account which does not make any sense to me (concept) and requires an additional click by the user (usability). (note: To drop the upload and fetch button of personal information was agreed in a discussion on this list before.) What do you think about this?

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caching DNS query result
by Markus Lutzer 10 Oct '06

10 Oct '06

I experienced the failure of DNS to happens regularly while the Internet connection itself is working; as well as in public places, at home or in university. In such situations Skype is the only working Internet service because it does not rely on DNS queries. Fortunately Gajim provides the possibility to define an explicit server address where I wrote the particular IP address in. This is fine but I think Gajim would be more reliable for everyone if Gajim would cache the required IP addresses and would fall back to them in case it can not resolve the corresponding domain names later on. What do you think?

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(no subject)
by Markus Lutzer 07 Oct '06

07 Oct '06

I have a German Gajim installed but starting Gajim with "LANG=C gajim" results in a mixed language Gajim. Most of Gajim seems to be in English (as expected) but some texts are in German: The submenu entry of Actions->Group Chat is: "Neuen Raum betreten" (= enter new room) and the following window title "Betrete Chatraum" (= enter chat room) Also submenu entry of Actions->Advanced->"Verlaufmanager" (is not "Verlaufsmanager" with the additional "s" the proper terminology?) Additionally the gateway to ICQ is called "Netzwerkübergang" instead of gateway but I am not sure if this is Gajim's fault.

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separate fields for server and room for conference chat?
by Markus Lutzer 07 Oct '06

07 Oct '06

To connect to a conference chat, why I need to separate the address of the chat into room and server and don't have one single field (as in the add contact window) where I could enter gajim(a)conference.gajim.org for instance?

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connection problem: wrong status indication
by Markus Lutzer 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

I am using Gajim 0.10.1 on two Ubuntu 6.06 machines, one laptop and one desktop machine. Both Installations indicate to be online (green color) but - of course - with two different accounts. Gajim on the laptop displays the desktop computer as not available (red color). Gajim on the desktop displays the laptop as disconnected (grey color). So, something is definitely wrong... Also messages between the two computers don't arrive. This is funny because both machines are about 1m away from each other and the Internet connection is working properly. Potentially Gajim does not work properly with standby mode of my laptop? Answer me quickly in case I should do some more tests as long as this problem exists. Markus

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Ideas about a Gajim moto
by Nikos Kouremenos 03 Oct '06

03 Oct '06

Hello everyone, Our logo is good, but sometimes we also need logo with moto in it. Atm, we can do: Gajim Jabber in PyGTK and Gajim Jabber Power Make your suggesstions please Thanks

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Disable account names in contact names in roster with merged accounts
by m0llbuz_ 02 Oct '06

02 Oct '06

Hi, I have just found the wonderful "merge accounts" feature. The only bad thing with it is that it appends the account name in the roster after each contact name, e.g. "John Doe (jabber.org)". I would like to deactivate this behaviour, is this possible? /Milo -- ___________________________________________________ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com

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